Opera Dragonfly 与 Firebug

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纸伞微斜 2024-09-23 06:33:01

您可能知道也可能不知道 Opera Dragonfly 是一种 Web 应用程序,在首次使用和升级时从 Opera 的服务器加载。如果您重新打开它并且服务器版本未更新,它应该从缓存中快速加载。我不确定情况总是如此,YMMV,我完全可以理解它不可预测的加载时间可能会很烦人。但是,这样您就可以始终使用最新版本的 Dragonfly,而无需更新任何扩展。

这让我想到了第二点:禁用 CSS 属性。现在最新版本以非常明显的方式支持这一点。我建议你再次尝试打开 Dragonfly :-D

关于比较,我本质上太偏向于评论这个问题...但无论如何:我的总体感觉是 Firebug 是 Web 调试器 UI 设计的巨大飞跃(如果你'你已经足够老了,可以使用 Venkman,你知道我的意思),但是在幕后,它使用起来感觉不稳定。我的用例主要是 JS 调试器(DOM 检查器总是更可靠),多年来我已经看到调试器以许多奇怪的小方式表现不佳。我会很快补充一点,Dragonfly 还没有好到哪里去,它有一些已知的问题,这些问题可能会让您在迈步时完全偏离轨道。当前版本的 Firebug 很可能比所有过去的版本都更稳定,但我仍然有点不愿意用它来执行复杂的 JS 调试任务,而更喜欢 Dragonfly 或 Chrome 的检查器。又是YMMV。

..我更喜欢 Dragonfly 的主要原因可能是该用户 JS 允许我使用 Dragonfly 来逐步执行任何随机脚本,无论它是否作为无空格文本 blob 通过网络发送:
http://my.opera.com/hallvors /blog/2008/05/13/script-formatter-user-js

但是,我的用例是调试任何随机页面,而大多数人的用例是调试他们自己格式良好的脚本:)

you may or may not be aware that Opera Dragonfly is a sort of web application, loading from Opera's server on first usage and whenever it's upgraded. If you re-open it and the server version is not updated, it should load quickly from cache. I'm not sure that's always the case, YMMV, and I can completely understand that its unpredictable load time can be annoying. However, this way your are always using the latest version of Dragonfly without having to update any extension.

Which brings me to the second point: disabling CSS properties. This is now supported in a pretty obvious way in the latest version. I suggest you just try opening Dragonfly again :-D

Regarding comparisons, I'm inherently too biased to comment on this question... But anyway: My general feeling is that Firebug was a giant leap in web debugger UI design (if you're old enough to have used Venkman you know what I mean), however under the hood it doesn't feel stable to use. My use case is mostly the JS debugger (DOM inspector has always been more reliable) and I've seen the debugger misbehave in many weird little ways over the years. I'll quickly add that Dragonfly is not much better yet, it has known problems that can throw you completely off the track when stepping. The current version of Firebug may well be more stable than all past versions, but I'm still a bit reluctant to use it for complex JS debugging tasks, and prefer Dragonfly or Chrome's inspector. YMMV again.

..the main reason I prefer Dragonfly probably is that this user JS lets me use Dragonfly to step through ANY random script, no matter if it's sent over the wire as a whitespace-free text blob:
http://my.opera.com/hallvors/blog/2008/05/13/script-formatter-user-js

But then, my use case is debugging ANY random page while most people's use case is to debug their own nicely formatted scripts :)

红衣飘飘貌似仙 2024-09-23 06:33:01

我使用所有浏览器的开发工具!即使对于 Internet Explorer,开发人员也可以额外下载!

问题是:这并不是因为有一种东西可以在 Firefox 中工作,它可以在 IE6、7、8、Opera 和 Chrome 中工作。

我喜欢 internet exlporer 工具的一点是,您可以选择要调试的版本。所以你不需要下载集合包(因为6和7几乎相同)

所有工具都具有几乎相同的功能。

I use the developper tools of all the browsers! Even for Internet Explorer there are extra downloads for developers!

The problem is: it's not beacause one thing works in firefox, it works in IE6,7,8, Opera And Chrome.

What I like about internet exlporer tool is that you can choose which version you are debugging. So you do not need to download the collection pack (because 6 and 7 are almost the same)

All the tools have almost the same features.

奢华的一滴泪 2024-09-23 06:33:01

嗯,我想说蜻蜓比萤火虫好得多。它提供了 firebug 中存在的所有工具,但您只需要弄清楚它即可。有 CSS 自动完成功能。但为此你必须按向下键才能添加CSS,这非常容易。只要向下滚动到CSS栏的底部,就会写上new style。并且蜻蜓还提供了Line多种款式。位于样式声明的右上角。

Well I would say dragonfly is much better than firebug. It provides all the tools that are present in firebug but you just have to figure it out. There is CSS autocomplete. But for that you have to press down key for and adding css is very easy. Just scroll down to the bottom of the css bar and there will be written new style. And dragonfly also provides the Line no of styles. On the right top corner of the style declaration.

安穩 2024-09-23 06:33:01

必须同意这一点,我花了 90% 的时间让事情在 ie 中工作,并且能够使用 ie 开发人员工具在 ie7 或 8 中渲染是一个很大的好处。

当谈到 ie6 时,我倾向于通过 Spoon.net 启动它,然后使用 Firebug lite 书签来破解,但是现在在开始之前您已经大致了解什么可以工作,什么不可以工作。

...不幸的是,从事金融工作的许多用户将在相当长的时间内停留在 ie6 上,因此您只能使用它。

就我个人而言,我正在尝试其他调试器,看看它们是否比 firebug 更好,但到目前为止,它们最多还可以,但是随着转向 webkit 浏览器,Google Chrome 已经得到了我的投票。

Have to agree there, I spend 90% of my time making things work in ie and having the ability to render in ie7 or 8 with the ie developer tools is a big bonus.

When it comes to ie6 i tend to fire it up through spoon.net and then use the firebug lite bookmarklet to hack away, however these days you'll already have a rough idea of what will and won't work before you start.

...unfortunately working in finance a lot of your users will be stuck on ie6 for a considerable time so you just have to go with it.

personally i'm trying the other debuggers out to see if they're better than firebug but so far they're ok at best, however with the shift to webkit browsers Google Chrome's already got my vote.

喜爱皱眉﹌ 2024-09-23 06:33:01
CSS editing capabilities      Firebug   |   Dragonfly
                              _______________________
CSS autocomplete              Yes       |   No
Ease in adding new css        Very easy |   Very difficult
Line no of styles             Yes       |   No
Page rendering while inspect  Normal    |   Inspected element get locked
Ruler                         Useless   |   Very handy (on the screenshot)
Color pallete                 No        |   Yes
Tabbed resource browsing      No        |   Yes
Extendability via plugins     Yes       |   No
CSS editing capabilities      Firebug   |   Dragonfly
                              _______________________
CSS autocomplete              Yes       |   No
Ease in adding new css        Very easy |   Very difficult
Line no of styles             Yes       |   No
Page rendering while inspect  Normal    |   Inspected element get locked
Ruler                         Useless   |   Very handy (on the screenshot)
Color pallete                 No        |   Yes
Tabbed resource browsing      No        |   Yes
Extendability via plugins     Yes       |   No
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