WF 4.0会让我过时吗

发布于 2024-08-05 16:23:51 字数 261 浏览 2 评论 0原文

我在奥斯陆看到一篇关于让我们过时的帖子。我只是碰巧听了布莱恩·诺伊斯 (Brian Noyes) 的最新《油炸剧集》。他们正在谈论 SharePoint 和 Windows 工作流,以及 Windows 工作流的“梦想”是如何让业务分析师通过拖放方式获得正常运行的服务。我是一个新手 dotnet 开发人员,担心当我达到咨询“级别”时我的技能就会过时。我是否应该放弃学习基本技能,只学习如何使用框架和打包应用程序,例如 SAP、SharePoint、BizTalk?我是否在浪费时间学习表达式树和 T 函数?

I saw a post on Oslo about making us obsolete. I just happened to listen to the latest Deep Fried Episode with Brian Noyes. They were talking about SharePoint and Windows Workflow and how the "dream" of Windows Workflow is to let mere Business Analyst Drag and Drop their way to a functioning service. I am a newbie dotnet developer, and afraid that by the time I get to Consulting "Level" my skills would be obsolete. Should I abandon learning basic skills and just learn how to work with Frameworks and Packaged applications such as SAP, SharePoint, BizTalk. Am I wasting time trying to learn Expression Trees and Func of T's?

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静水深流 2024-08-12 16:23:51

长期以来,人们一直在谈论废除编程并使应用程序创建像拖放逻辑和其他东西一样简单。然而,当今的应用程序需要比以往更多的编程时间,因为客户总是期望更高的质量水平。计算机科学可能是政府以外发展最快的行业,我认为投资高质量的计算机科学教育是安全的。

People have been talking about doing away with programming and making application creation as easy as dragging and dropping logic and stuff for a long time. Yet applications today require more programming time than ever before because customers are always expecting the next level of quality. Computer Science is probably the fastest growing industry outside government and I think you'll be safe investing in a good quality CS education.

李白 2024-08-12 16:23:51

早在个人计算机革命的早期,一些聪明的火花就提出了一个名为“The Last One”的程序。那时,据说程序员很快就不再有用了,因为任何商人和他们的狗很快就能够编写自己的应用程序而无需编程。

然后他们发布了“最后一个”第二版,我们都笑了,因为我们知道我们的工作仍然安全。

有很多工具可以让非技术人员“编程”(当我想到所有 Excel 电子表格都被用来经营业务时,我有时会发抖)。他们永远无法与真正了解幕后发生的事情所取得的成就相媲美。

Back in the early days of the personal computer revolution, some bright spark came up with a program called "The Last One". At that point, it was said that there would soon be no more use for programmers since any business person and their dog would soon be able to write their own applications without programming.

Then they released "The Last One", version 2, and we all got a good chuckle, knowing that our jobs were still safe.

There are plenty of tools around that let non-tech types "program" (I tremble sometimes when I think of all the Excel spreadsheets being used to run businesses). They'll never match what can be achieved with a real understanding of what goes on under the covers.

遥远的绿洲 2024-08-12 16:23:51

花在学习上的时间永远不会被浪费。如果我是你,我会对软件预测持高度怀疑态度。许多本应在 1990 年实现的事情仍然远未得到解决。

世界永远需要优秀的程序员,而 DotNET 似乎是一个巨大的(并且不断增长的)市场。

Time spend learning is never wasted. I'd be highly sceptical of software predictions if I were you. So many things that were supposed to be available by 1990 are still nowhere near solved.

The world will always need good programmers, and DotNET seems to be a massive (and growing) market.

も让我眼熟你 2024-08-12 16:23:51

不,首先必须有人编写 SharePoint 和 Windows 工作流,对吧?它不会是业务分析师。

Nah, someone has to write SharePoint and Windows Workflow in the first place, right? It's not going to be business analysts.

寄意 2024-08-12 16:23:51

你可以将编程脱离视野,但不能将视野脱离编程。

You can the the programming out of vision, but not the vision out of programming.

渔村楼浪 2024-08-12 16:23:51

如果您想成为一名优秀的开发人员甚至顾问,您就必须了解并充分理解基础知识。

但我不认为“T 的表达式树和函数”是基础知识。它们是 C# 的非常高级的功能,在某些情况下非常有用,但在“正常编程”中并不经常需要它们。

至于框架 - 您应该了解常见工具和框架的基础知识,但您不必学习使用所有这些工具 - 除非您必须这样做。

最重要的是:学习新事物永远不会浪费时间。

You must know and well understand the basics if you even think about to be a good developer or even consultant.

But I would not see "Expression Trees and Funcs of T's" as basics. They are very advanced features of C# which can be very useful in some cases, but they are not very often needed in "normal programming".

As for Frameworks - you should know the basics of common tools and frameworks around, but you don't have to learn to work with all of them - until you have to.

And most important: Learning new things is never wasted time.

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