保存图标: 还是软盘?

发布于 2024-07-25 05:05:18 字数 356 浏览 10 评论 0原文

我正在开发一个项目,用户可以保存他们的工作(最有可能保存到硬盘上,但也可能保存到任何其他媒体,包括软盘)。 当然,流行的文件> 有保存选项,但是工具栏按钮呢?

到目前为止,最受欢迎的图标是软盘。 然而,用户写入软盘的机会非常小。 尽管如此,我认为软盘比字面意义更具代表性。

最后,我可能会坚持使用软盘图标以保持大多数用户熟悉的约定,但是...有人对如何更新这个旧图标有任何想法吗?

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I'm working on a project where the user is able to save their work (most likely to the HDD but also possibly any other media, including floppy disks). Sure, the popular File > Save option is there but what about a toolbar button?

By far the most popular icon is the floppy disk. However, the chances the user will write to the floppy are pretty slim. Still, I think the floppy is more representational than literal.

In the end, I'll probably stick with the floppy disk icon to keep the convention most users are familiar with but... anybody have any ideas on how to update this old icon?

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吃→可爱长大的 2024-08-01 05:05:19

正如其他人指出的那样,软盘图标作为保存某些内容的行为的标准视觉表示嵌入到人们对计算机用户界面的理解中。
软盘图标的使用反映了当时流行的技术,因此代表了普通用户可以快速将其与保存文件的行为联系起来的东西。

尽管软盘近年来迅速消亡,但保存操作仍然以视觉方式表示,这一事实证明了图标与保存文件操作之间的关联性很强。 如果要尝试更改图标,则需要选择一个

  1. 易于与保存操作相关联的图像,因为软盘已经有
  2. 可能继续使用,或至少在识别中,足够长的时间以达到足够高的数量 虽然我确实承认

软盘作为主要存储介质的用途肯定已经过时,但我不认为它作为保存图标的作用会在不久的将来结束。

如果图标要改变,我相信主要操作系统和硬件供应商需要支持这样的改变,我认为这不太可能,因为这样做可能会疏远大量现有用户

As pointed out by others the floppy disk icon is embeded in peoples understanding of computer user interfaces as the standard visual representation of the act of saving something.
The use of the floppy disk icon is a reflection of the technology that was prevailent at the time and so represented something the average user could quickkly associate with the act of saving a file.

The fact that the action of saving is still visually represented by the floppy disk in spite of it's rapid demise in recent times demonstrates the strength of association between the icon and the act of saving a file. If one were to attempt tp change the icon one would need to choose an image which is

  1. Easily associatable with the act of saving as the floppy disk already is
  2. Likely to remain in use, or at least in recognition, long enough for a sufficiently high number of people to recognise it

While I do acknowlege that the floppy disk has certainly outlived it's usefulness as the primary storage media of choice, I don't see it's role as the save icon ending in the near future.

If the icon were to change I believe major OS and hardware vendors would need to support such a change, which I don't believe is likely as doing so would potentially alienate a large number of existing users

〗斷ホ乔殘χμё〖 2024-08-01 05:05:18

软盘图标已成为保存文件的标准。 这是一个高度可识别的图标,没有理由改变它。 应用程序之间的一致性是一件很棒的事情。

我怀疑随着时间的推移,一旦人们开始忘记自己的样子(或从来不知道),图标就会变得更加程式化,不再像真正的软盘。 现在的图标代表的概念是保存的内容比软盘多。

The floppy disk icon has become the standard for saving files. It's a highly recognizable icon and there's no reason to change that. Consistency between applications is a wonderful thing.

I suspect that over time the icon will grow more stylized and less like an actual floppy disk once people start forgetting what they look like (or never knew). The icon nowadays represents the concept of saving more than it represents floppy disks anyway.

夏有森光若流苏 2024-08-01 05:05:18

正如其他人所说,保留软盘图标,不用担心。 在我住的地方,这是火车道口的警告标志:

火车道口的警告标志

没有任何蒸汽机车已有50多年的历史,但大家仍然知道这是火车的象征。 同样的,50年后,当你的文件存储在轨道上的谷歌服务器上时,每个人都会知道软盘是保存你数据的标志。

As others have said, keep the floppy icon and don't worry. Where I live, this is the warning sign for train crossing:

A warning sign for train crossing

There haven't been any steam locomotives for 50 years or so, but everyone still knows that this is the symbol for trains. And in the same way, 50 years from now, when your files are stored on Google servers in orbit, everyone will know that the floppy is the symbol for saving your data.

友谊不毕业 2024-08-01 05:05:18

考虑一下这样一个事实:您使用术语“软盘”,而实际上 3.5 英寸磁盘根本不是软盘。这只是从 5.25 英寸磁盘继承而来的一个术语,因为每个人都习惯了它。 “磁盘按钮就是保存”这个概念也是大家都习惯的。 坚持下去。

Consider the fact that you're using the term "floppy" when in fact the 3.5" disks were not floppy at all. It was just a term that carried over from 5.25" disks because everyone got used to it. The "disk button is save" concept is also what everyone is used to. Stick with it.

娇妻 2024-08-01 05:05:18

第 17 章:关于 Face 的“重新思考文件和保存” a> 涵盖了这一点。 Alan Cooper 是著名的可用性专家,他的著作颇具影响力。 他的论点本质上是,当我们强迫用户考虑实现时,我们就会陷入麻烦。 以下是简短摘录:

在数字技术世界中,
实现模型的地方
思维最引人注目
丑头就是文件的管理
以及“保存”的概念。 如果你有
曾经尝试过教你妈妈如何
用过电脑你就会知道
困难并不能真正做到
问题正义。 一切从一切开始
右:您启动文字处理器
并输入几个句子。 她是
一路与你相伴——就像
写在纸上。 但是当你点击
关闭按钮,向上弹出一个对话框
询问“您想保存更改吗?”
你和妈妈一起撞墙了。 她
看着你并问道:“这是什么意思?
意思是? 一切都好吗?”

此问题是由软件引起的
这迫使人们思考
不必要地制造计算机
面对内部机制
数据存储。 这不仅仅是一个
你母亲的问题; 甚至
经验丰富的计算机用户可以
很容易变得困惑或使
错误。 人们花费数千
硬件和软件上的美元
只是为了面对无礼的问题
就像“你真的想让我拯救吗?
您一直在处理的这份文件
整个下午?”并且必须记住
用于另存为...命令时
他们真正想做的是努力
该文件的副本。

值得思考如何简化或消除“保存”隐喻。

例如,在 Stack Overflow 上,我们可以“发布答案”或“添加评论”或“提出您的问题”。 每次我们确实是在“保存”到数据库,但每次的隐喻都略有不同。 发帖、添加、询问。 我想到像 iTunes 这样的软件,我认为它没有“保存到磁盘”音乐的概念。 您只需向其中添加音乐即可保存。 根据您的软件执行的任务类型,可能有比保存更贴切的不同比喻。

我应该提到的是,我并没有真正回答你的问题,我自己在我的网络应用程序中使用过软盘图标,或者一个只写着“保存”的大按钮。 目前,我们在很多情况下都坚持使用它,但随着软盘驱动器的消亡,它变得越来越荒谬。 但是,当拨号界面电话尚未进入时,我们也说我们“拨打”电话几十年来流行使用。

Chapter 17: "Rethinking Files and Save" of About Face covers this. Alan Cooper is well-known as a usability expert and his writings are influential. His argument is essentially that when we force the user to think about the implementation, we get ourselves into trouble. Here's a brief excerpt:

In the world of digital technology,
the place where implementation-model
thinking most strikingly rears its
ugly head is the management of files
and the concept of "save." If you have
ever tried to teach your mother how to
use a computer, you will know that
difficult doesn't really do the
problem justice. Things start out all
right: You start up the word processor
and type a couple sentences. She's
with you all the way -- it's like
writing on paper. But when you click
the Close button, up pops a dialog box
asking "Do you want to save changes?"
You and Mom hit a wall together. She
looks at you and asks, "What does this
mean? Is everything okay?"

This problem is caused by software
that forces people to think like
computers by unnecessarily making them
confront the internal mechanisms of
data storage. This isn't just a
problem for your mother; even
sophisticated computer users can
easily become confused or make
mistakes. People spend thousands of
dollars on hard- ware and software
just to confront impertinent questions
like "Do you really want me to save
this document that you've been working
on all afternoon?" and must remember
to use to the Save As... command when
what they really want to do is work on
a copy of the document.

It's worth thinking about ways to simplify or eliminate the "save" metaphor.

Here on Stack Overflow we can "Post an Answer" or "Add Comment" or "Ask your Question" for example. Each time we really are "saving" to the database, but the metaphor is slightly different each time. Posting, adding, asking. I think of software like iTunes which I believe does not have the concept of "saving to disk" for the music. You simply add music to it and it's saved. Depending on the type of tasks your software carries out, there may be different metaphors which are more apt than save.

I should mention that I've not really answered your question, I myself have used the floppy icon, or a big button that just says "Save" on it in my web applications. For the time being we're stuck with it for many cases, but it gets more and more ridiculous as floppy drives die out. But then, we also say we "dial" phones, when dial-interface phones have not been in popular use for decades.

拍不死你 2024-08-01 05:05:18

使用包含两个字符的图标:

:w

Use an icon containing two characters:

:w
深海少女心 2024-08-01 05:05:18

查看您全新手机的语音信箱图标。 它很有可能仍然是基于磁带的家庭答录机中的“磁带滚轮”图标。

编辑:

好吧,并非所有手机都使用该图标,但是“倒带”这个词怎么样? 我确信有些人拥有允许您“倒回”数字音频或视频媒体文件的设备。

Look at your brand new cell phone's voicemail icon. There's a good chance it's still the 'tape rollers' icon from magnetic tape based home answering machines.

EDIT:

Okay, not all phones use the icon, but how about the word 'rewind'? I'm sure a few people out there have devices which allow you to 'rewind' a digitial audio or video media file.

浪荡不羁 2024-08-01 05:05:18

如果你想一想,邮件也没有“现代”的表现形式,仍然以纸质信件为代表。

http://cdn.baekdal.com/2008/metaphor.jpg

(图片来自“是时候改变这个比喻了")

正如博客条目“图标的结尾"

基于移动目标进行视觉类比是危险的。 技术将会改变。 今天清晰明了的事情在 10 年后不会再如此。 因此,今天模糊的东西在十年后将变得完全模糊。 软盘图标的问题(超出了不确定的类比)是代沟。

尽管如此,只要潜在的行动是明确的,这个图标就会继续存在。

http://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/3d-model-of- the-save-icon.jpg

(图片在很多地方都可以找到,包括 这篇博文)

If you think about it, mail has no "modern" representation either and is still represented by a paper letter.

http://cdn.baekdal.com/2008/metaphor.jpg

(image from "It's Time to Change that Metaphor")

As mentioned in the blog entry "The end of an icon"

It’s dangerous to base a visual analogy on a moving target. Technology will change. What’s clear and obvious today won’t be in 10 years; so what’s nebulous today will be totally obscure in 10 years. The problem with the floppy icon (beyond the iffy analogy) is the generation gap.

Still, as long as the underlying action is clear, that icon will survive.

http://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/3d-model-of-the-save-icon.jpg

(image found in many places, including in this blog post)

软糯酥胸 2024-08-01 05:05:18

为什么我们需要“保存”功能? 我写的任何内容都应该自动保存,事实上 Microsoft Word 已经这样做了——如果它崩溃并且没有保存,您的数据仍然可以恢复。 Google 会自动保存草稿。 为什么我们仍然使用“保存”范式?

Why do we even need a "save" function? Anything I write should be automatically saved, and in fact Microsoft Word does that already--if it crashes and haven't saved, your data is still recoverable. Google saves drafts automatically. Why do we still use the "save" paradigm?

陈甜 2024-08-01 05:05:18

Tango 图标集有一个向下指向硬盘的箭头:

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Tango icon set have an arrow pointing down to a harddrive:

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赤濁 2024-08-01 05:05:18

像旧科幻电影中那样的卷盘磁带驱动器怎么样:

+-----+
|() ()|
| \ / |
|  W  |
+-----+

这个图标将是永恒的!

How about a reel tape drive like they had in the old Sci-Fi movies:

+-----+
|() ()|
| \ / |
|  W  |
+-----+

This icon would be timeless!

菩提树下叶撕阳。 2024-08-01 05:05:18

只要大多数应用程序继续使用软盘图标,大多数用户就会熟悉它,并且您的应用程序将从熟悉的界面中受益。 在经济学中,这被称为网络外部性

So long as most applications continue to use the floppy icon, most users will be familiar with it and your application will benefit from a familiar interface. In economics, this is known as a network externality.

九公里浅绿 2024-08-01 05:05:18

当某些代码出现问题时,我们会说其中存在“错误”,尽管上次实际发生这种情况已经是 60 多年前了!

When there's a problem with some code we say there's a 'bug' in it, even though the last time that actually happened was over 60 years ago!

記柔刀 2024-08-01 05:05:18

你知道,50 年后,人们将不再需要图标了。 如果您想保存您的工作,请眨眼两次,或者倒立,或者只是用您选择的语言说“保存”,瞧 - 它已保存......不再需要视觉效果了:)

I使用标准的 3.5 英寸图标进行投票。当用户感到困惑的那一天到来时,开发者会收到大量用户的抱怨,说它不够“用户友好”。就目前而言,我们已经习惯了寻找那个磁盘图标。我曾经使用过一个使用 CD 图标的应用程序,我花了几天时间才意识到它是用来保存的。这一切都是为了设计一致性和满足期望。

You know, in 50 years, icons won't be needed. If you want to save your work, blink twice, or stand on your head, or just say "Save" in the language of your choice, and voila - it's saved... no need for a visual anymore :)

I vote using the standard 3.5" icon. When the day comes that it's confusing to users, developers will get plenty of complaints from users saying it's not "user-friendly" enough. As for now, we've been conditioned to look for that disk icon. I used an app once that used a CD icon instead, and it took me a few days to realize that it was used to save. It's all about design consistency and fulfillment of expectations.

话少心凉 2024-08-01 05:05:18

如果您偏离了保存等操作的常用图标,您的用户会说您的程序很难使用。 即使你简化了一切,以至于你认为它非常直观并且比其他人所做的更好,他们也会说它很难使用,只是因为这不是他们习惯的,也不是他们期望的。 请记住,对于您的用户来说,无论微软和其他大公司做什么都是“正确的”,因此如果您做不同的事情,那么默认情况下您就是错误的。

此外,即使您的用户花了 5 或 10 秒才能弄清楚保存按钮在哪里,这也是您本可以轻松避免的 5 到 10 秒的挫败感,从而拯救了他们,而这只是阻止他们使用您的应用程序的又一个障碍。 显然,他们使用您的应用程序并不是为了享受单击按时间顺序相关的保存图标的乐趣。 他们只是想避免失去工作并继续处理生活中更重要的事情。

坚持使用 3.5 英寸磁盘;这是一个经济上合理的选择,尽管创意较差。

If you deviate from the common icons for operations like save, your users are going to say your programs is hard to use. Even if you simplify everything so that you think it's perfectly intuitive and much better than what everyone else is doing, they'll say it's hard to use, just because it's not what they're used to and not what they expect. Remember, to your users, whatever Microsoft and the other big guys do is "correct," so if you're doing something different, you are, by default, wrong.

Besides, even if your user takes 5 or 10 seconds to figure out where the save button is, that's 5 to 10 seconds of easily avoidable frustration you could have saved them, and it's just one more barrier preventing them from being able to use your app. Obviously, they're not using your app to revel in the joy of clicking a chronologically relevant save icon. They simply want to avoid losing their work and get on with more important things in life.

Stick with the 3.5" disk; it's a financially sound, if creatively poor, choice.

热情消退 2024-08-01 05:05:18

并不真地。 只要它看起来像更现代的“僵硬”而不是松软。

记忆棒确实没有同样的怀旧之情。 然而,随着越来越多的现代系统不包含物理刚性驱动器,未来的用户可能不知道“刚性”代表什么。 作为一个青少年,黑胶唱片是什么,他们可能会认为你正处于老年时期。

保险箱的图片可能意味着您正在使用某些内部密码进行加密并将其存储得如此安全以至于无法检索。

服务器的图片再次给人一种它被复制到其他地方的印象。

未来5年坚持僵硬

干杯

Not really. As long as it looks likes the more modern "stiffy" rather than floppy.

Memory stick don't really have the same nostalgia. However as more and more modern systems don't include a physical stiffy drive, users of the future may not know what a "stiffy" stand for. As a teenager what a vinyl was and they might think your having a senior moment.

Picture of a Safe might imply that you are encrypting with some internal password and storing it so safe it won't be retrievable.

Picture of Server again givies the impression that its to be copied elsewhere.

Stick with the stiffy for the next 5 years

Cheers

生生不灭 2024-08-01 05:05:18

我认为这种方法是有道理的:

Helveticons excerpt, shown a fork arrow pointing down into a 3/4 Circle for Save

I think this approach is on to something:

Helveticons excerpt, showing a forked arrow pointing down into a 3/4 circle for Save

↘人皮目录ツ 2024-08-01 05:05:18

IMO,图标很有用,因为它们是我们可以与不同操作相关联的恒定符号。 从这个意义上说,软盘非常合适,因为它几乎是通用的。 我一生中从未见过带有不熟悉的图标(根本没有文字)的界面,并且能够弄清楚它的作用(我正在看着你,Mac OS)。 我认为,即使你想出了一个更真实地反映实际情况的图像,例如硬盘驱动器的图片,你也会比不理会它造成更多的混乱。 即使像我这样的人可以将图标识别为硬盘驱动器,但这并不能告诉我们您要做什么,它只是意味着硬盘驱动器以某种方式参与其中......

IMO, icons are useful because they're constant symbols we can associate with different actions. In that sense, the floppy is very appropriate simply because it is nearly universal. Never once in my life have I seen an interface with unfamiliar icons (no text at all) and been able to figure out what it does (I'm looking at you, Mac OS). I think even if you come up with an image that is more true to what is actually going on, such as a picture of a hard drive, you'll cause far more confusion than if you left it alone. Even if people such as myself can identify the icon as a hard drive, that doesn't tell us what you're going to do, it just means a hard drive is somehow involved...

太阳公公是暖光 2024-08-01 05:05:18

不幸的是,这个软盘图标已成为保存文档的通用符号。 它甚至在 Microsoft Word 2007 中也得到了使用,几乎没有受到任何影响。 以任何方式更改它,您的用户都可能无法将其识别为保存符号。

Unfortunately this floppy disk icon has become the universal symbol for saving a document. It is even used in Microsoft Word 2007, virtually untouched. Change it in any way, an it is likely that you will make it unrecognizable to your users as a save symbol.

甜点 2024-08-01 05:05:18

它仍然在 Windows 的标准工具栏图像列表中。

没有人见过硬盘驱动器,但这并不能阻止图标成为硬盘驱动器。 对于大多数用户来说:硬盘就是地板上的那个盒子。

重要的是风格化的符号。 图片可以是一只红蟋蟀——只要每个人都将红蟋蟀与储蓄联系起来。

It's still in Windows' standard toolbar image list.

Nobody has seen a hard-drive, but that doesn't stop the icon from being one. To most users: a hard drive is that box on the floor.

It's the stylized symbol that is important. The picture can be a red cricket - as long as everyone associates that red cricket with saving.

柏拉图鍀咏恒 2024-08-01 05:05:18

微软在 2007 年的办公套件中抛弃了标准菜单和图标方面做得非常好。 几乎每个普通/初学者用户都讨厌它......

Microsoft did a pretty good job of throwing out standard menus and icons in its 2007 office suite. Just about every average/beginner user just hates it for that...

空心↖ 2024-08-01 05:05:18

老实说,软盘图标对我来说从来没有多大意义。 它的意思是“磁盘活动”,也可以是保存但打开。

问题是,新一代用户从未见过软盘(例如我 11 岁的侄子),他必须知道那个奇怪的平方东西就是“保存”。

我喜欢带有指向它的箭头的文件夹图标。 也许是一个指向圆柱体的箭头(la DB)?

我不太喜欢其他想法,因此保留软盘图标是默认解决方案。 另外,我讨厌某些应用程序使用的非 MS 大的低质量软盘图标。

其他解决方案可能是带有硬盘驱动器和从第一个到第二个的箭头的小版本应用程序图标,但这在 16x16 图标上看起来不太好。

显而易见的是,图标设计是科学和艺术。 我非常尊重优秀的图标设计师。

To be honest, the floppy icon never made much sense to me. It means "disk activity", and it could be Save but Open as well.

The problem is that there is a new generation of users that have never seen a floppy disk (e.g. my 11 years of nephew) and he had to learn that that weird squared thing was Save.

I like the icon of a folder with an arrow pointing towards it. Maybe an arrow pointing to a cylinder (a la DB)?

I don't really like the other ideas a lot, so keeping the floppy icon is the default solution. Also, I hate the non-MS big low quality floppy icons some apps use.

Other solution could be a small version of the app icon with a hard drive and the arrow from the first to the second, but that won't look fine on a 16x16 icon.

What's clear is that icon design is science and art. I have a lot of respect for good icon designers.

早茶月光 2024-08-01 05:05:18

您使用过 HLSS 吗? 他们使用 SD 卡的图像作为保存图标,但大多数时候,我无法在工具栏上将其选中,必须转到“文件”->“保存”。 保存就保存。

因此,他们提出了另一种现代等效方案,但它的工作效果不如 ol' 3.5 英寸软盘图标。

Have you ever used HLSS? They use an image of a SD card as a save icon, yet most of the time, I can't pick it out on the toolbar and have to go to File -> Save to save.

So, they present an alternative modern equivalent, yet it doesn't work as well as the ol' 3.5" floppy icon.

秋风の叶未落 2024-08-01 05:05:18

如果您使用软盘图标,使用您的应用程序的用户会发现它更有用。 为了保持一致性,如果它让你感觉更好的话。 它无处不在。

Users using your application will find it more usable if you use a floppy disk icon. For consistency, if it makes you feel better. It's ubiquitous.

耳钉梦 2024-08-01 05:05:18

我认为怀旧很巧妙——每个人都知道它意味着什么。 我只是快速浏览了一下,Outlook 仍然使用老式的喇叭状巨大听筒图标来拨打电话。

I think the nostalgia is neat - everybody knows what it means. I just took a quick look and Outlook still uses an old-school honkin-huge handset icon to make a call.

清泪尽 2024-08-01 05:05:18

很好的问题。 在我经常使用的 4 台计算机中,只有 1 台甚至配备了 3.5 英寸驱动器。这是一种过时的技术,我个人不介意看到它被替换,即使是图标形式。

可能的替换:

  • 保险库图标。易于识别且具有象征意义 。
  • 更现代但仍然可能很快就会过时的

普遍共识似乎是“继续使用软盘,因为这一直是这样做的 ” 从什么时候起,程序员的心态已经变得符合其他人的理想了?仅仅因为“事情一直都是这样”而做某事并不是借口,尤其是对于程序员来说。

Great question. Of the 4 computers I actively use, only 1 even has a 3.5" drive. It is an antiquated technology that I, for one, wouldn't mind seeing replaced even in icon form.

Possible replacements:

  • a vault icon. Easily recognizable and symbolic of saving.
  • a compact disc symbol. More modern but still capable of being outdated soon.
  • ???

I'm surprised at most of the responses here. The general consensus seems to be "keep using the floppy since that's what has always been done." Since when has the programmer mentality been to conform to everyone else's ideals? Doing something just because "That's the way it's always been" is no excuse, especially for coders.

删除会话 2024-08-01 05:05:18

您可以使用上传和下载(红色向上和绿色向下箭头)图标来保存和加载。 此外,在不久的将来,网络将成为大多数保存文件的地方。

You could use upload and download (red up and green down arrows) icons for saving and loading. Besides, in a short time network will be most place to save files.

当爱已成负担 2024-08-01 05:05:18

尽管很多人无法识别该图标实际上是什么,但他们很快就会了解它的含义,因此我会保留它以与其他应用程序保持一致。

将来,我认为这个问题将变得毫无意义,因为越来越多的应用程序将避免“保存”操作并自动保存每个用户操作。 人们不会通过不保存来放弃更改,而是使用“撤消”作为放弃更改的主要范例。

Even though many people won't recognize what the icon actually is, they will quickly learn what it means, so I would keep it for consistency with other apps.

In the future, I think the question will become moot as more and more apps will avoid "Save" actions and save each user action automatically. Instead of discarding changes by not saving, people will use "undo" as the dominant paradigm for discarding changes.

西瓜 2024-08-01 05:05:18

有趣的是,我发现这个讨论是因为我正在寻找一个可以下载的标准“保存”图标,以替换 UtlraEdit 开始使用的“新的和改进的”图标,而该图标在工具栏上很难挑选出来。 是的,它已经过时了,但是每个人都认为 3.5 英寸软盘映像代表“保存”!是的,程序员不应该这样做,因为“这就是一直以来的做法”,但图标是语言而不是方法论。发明一个新词只是因为它很酷,除非你的目的是向前几代人隐藏你所说的内容。

It's funny that I found this discussion because I was looking for a standard 'save' icon I could download to replace the 'new and improved' icon that UtlraEdit started using and which was too difficult to pick out on the toolbar. Yes, it is outdated, but everybody recognizes the 3.5" floppy disk image as representing 'save'! Yes, programmers should not be doing things because 'that's the way it's always been done' but icons are language and not methodology. Don't invent a new word just because it would be cool unless your aim is to hide what you are saying from the previous generations.

心清如水 2024-08-01 05:05:18

我认为总的来说,软盘图标已经成为公认的保存图标,即使它与闪存和 DVD 的普遍存在不再有太大关系。 坦率地说,如果一个程序有一个类似记忆棒或硬盘之类的保存图标,大多数用户将无法将其选为保存图标。

I think in general the floppy disc icon has become the accepted save icon, even if it doesn't have much bearing any more with flash memory and DVD's being pretty ubiquitous. Frankly, if a program had an icon for saving that was something like a memory stick or HDD, most users wouldn't be able to pick it out as the save icon.

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