低价项目(预算紧张)——有什么特点?

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波浪屿的海角声 2024-08-01 00:03:06

你所说的不是一个“有限资源”项目,而是一个仓促且无计划的项目。

我对你的清单中的一些项目有异议:

  • 对于不合规格的工作,有严格的官僚流程。
  • 变更请求预算可能很小或根本不存在。

实际上,这些应该是大多数项目的常态。 谁请求更改并支付更改费用,您还是客户?

  • 无法为客户进行任何内容管理或数据输入
  • 没有编写用户文档或手册的预算。

如果这不是合同的一部分,你为什么要这样做?

  • 必须寻求“足够好”的编码解决方案

在某些时候,您必须停止在“足够好”,否则您将从现在开始一直进行抛光,直到时间结束。

我要添加到您的清单中的是:

  • 办公用品变得稀缺或被锁起来。
  • 公司供应的食品/饮料消失
  • 停工时间消失。 时间表上 100% 的时间必须专用于项目工作。
  • 打印机/复印机正在全范围打印其他员工的简历。
  • 老板的门一天90%的时间都是关着的。

What you are talking about is not a 'limited resources' project, but instead a rushed and unplanned project.

A few items in your list I take issue with:

  • Strict bureaucratic process for off-spec work
  • Change request budget may be small or non-existent

Actually, these should be the norm for most projects. Who's requesting and paying for the changes, you or the client?

  • Can’t do any content management or data entry for client
  • No budget for writing user documentation or manuals.

If that's not part of the contract, why are you doing it?

  • Have to go for ‘good enough’ coding solutions

At some point, you have to stop at 'good enough', or else you are going to be polishing from now until the end of time.

Something I would add to your list are:

  • Office supplies become scarce or go under lock and key.
  • Corporate supplied food/beverages disappear
  • Down time disappears. 100% of your time on your time sheet must be dedicated to project work.
  • The printer/photocopier is running full-bore printing other staff member's resumes.
  • The Boss' door is shut for 90% of the day.
红颜悴 2024-08-01 00:03:06

坦白说,我从未听说过哪个项目拥有无限的资源。 即使是政府也会在一段时间后对某些事情采取刹车。

所以,从纯粹的逻辑角度来看,所有项目的资源都是有限的。

Quite frankly, I've never heard of a project that had unlimited resources. Even the government will put the brakes on something after a while.

So, from a pure logic perspective, all projects have limited resources.

客…行舟 2024-08-01 00:03:06

有限的资源? 我所知道的所有项目的资源都是有限的:

  • 时间
  • 开发人员
  • 预算的

Limited resources? All projects that I know of have limited resources:

  • time
  • developers
  • budget
夜巴黎 2024-08-01 00:03:06

过时的或明显是测试版的文档,与现场产品的任何版本都不相符,或者文档看起来像是已经经过几代施乐副本。

没有现场安装或支持。 根据正在实施的系统的规模,状况良好的公司可能会派遣一名或多名开发人员来监督实施,而资金紧张的公司可能只会以更“即发即忘”的方式提供电话或电子邮件支持。

Outdated or obviously beta documentation which doesn't jive with whatever release of the product on site, or documentation which looks like it's been down through several generations of Xerox copies.

No onsite installation or support. Depending on the size of the system being implemented, a company in good shape might send one or more of their developers to oversee the implementation, whereas a company that's tight might offer phone or email support only in a more "fire and forget" approach.

似最初 2024-08-01 00:03:06
  • 新事物的不断出现,
    被遗忘的特征,假设为
    用户的“明显”和“隐含”,
    要求中从未说明,
    引发讨论 Bug 与 Change
    要求。
  • 采用瀑布模型代替
    迭代方法。
  • 客户对成本提出抗议
    修复,说这样的话:“如果
    你有错误,那是因为你
    没有做好你的工作”,不是
    接受三重约束
    切割时对质量的影响
    时间/预算。
  • 降低价格的压力
    维护和支持活动
    项目部署后
    生产。
  • 采用固定价格项目(外包)来转移财务风险和时间风险的压力。
  • Continuous occurences of new,
    forgotten features, assumed as
    "obvious" and "implicit" by the user,
    never stated in the requirements,
    leading to discussion Bug vs. Change
    Request.
  • Waterfall model adopted instead of an
    iterative approach.
  • Customer protesting on the costs of
    fixing, saying something like: "If
    you have bugs, it is because you
    didn't do your job right", not
    accepting the tripple constraint
    effects on quality when cutting
    time/budget.
  • Pressure for lower prices for
    maintenance and support activities
    after project deployment in
    production.
  • Pressure for adopting a fixed-price project (outsourcing) to transfer financial risk together with timeline risk.
烧了回忆取暖 2024-08-01 00:03:06

“定价过低的项目”

如果我正确理解您的意思,那么您确实在谈论项目可用的资源不适合实现向客户承诺的结果的项目。

我可以想到出现这种情况的四种方式:

  1. 准备项目计划时的估计错误
  2. 需求蔓延
  3. 在不缩小项目范围的情况下减少项目预算 项目范围的
  4. 资源(人员技能、计算机资源等)不足

当人们处于 项目范围内时项目意识到这种情况后,他们确实有两个选择:削减成本或削减范围。 削减范围可能很难推销,并可能危及项目的可行性,因此大多数时候人们选择削减客户,特别是因为可以通过多种方式削减成本而不引起高层的注意:

  • 无薪加班
  • 降低质量
  • 消除文档

等等。

事实上,当您开始削减成本时,您甚至可能看起来很像项目经理,因为成本控制是项目经理的职责之一! 我认为您想要的是找到诊断资金不足的项目的方法。 我认为我不会列出大量的症状,而是努力确定一般情况。

在我看来,有一个一般条件可以确定资金不足的项目。 对于大多数项目来说,员工是最大的成本,或者至少是项目经理可以管理的第二大成本。 每当您发现经验丰富的经理采取措施降低员工成本,而这些措施并不属于原始计划的一部分时,您就可以确定您的项目资金不足。

问候,

"Under-priced projects"

If I understand correctly what you mean, you really are talking about projects where the resources available to the project are not appropriate to achieve the results that were promised to the client.

I can think of four ways for this situation to arise:

  1. Wrong estimates when preparing the project plan
  2. Requirements creep
  3. Reducing the project budget without reducing the project scope
  4. Inadequate resources (staff skills, computer resources, etc.) for the project scope

When people in the project become aware of the situation, they really have two options: cut costs or cut scope. Cutting the scope can be a hard sell and may endanger the project viability, so most of the time people opt for cutting custs, especially since cost can be cut in many ways without atracting the attention from the higher echelons:

  • Unpaid overtime
  • Reducing quality
  • Eliminating documentation

and so forth.

In fact, you may even look good as a project manager when you start cutting costs, since cost containment is one of the project manager's responsibilities! I assume that what you want is to find ways to diagnose an under-funded project. I think that instead of developing an extensive list of symptoms, I would strive to identify a general condition.

In my opinion, there is a general condition that allows to pinpoint an under-funded project. For most projects, staff is the biggest cost - or at least the second biggest cost that can be managed by the project manager. Whenever you find an experienced manager taking measures to reduce staff costs and those measures were not part of the original plan, then you can be sure you have an under-funded project.

Regards,

柏林苍穹下 2024-08-01 00:03:06

使用你们如此善意贡献的信息,我能够将所有内容整合在一起并写一篇文章,

我将在此处放置一个链接,以防将来有人寻求有关该主题的帮助:

在资源不足的项目中生存

--LM

using the information you guys so kindly contributed i was able to pull it all together and write an article

ill put a link here in case someone in the future is looking for help on the topic:

Surviving An Under-resourced Project

--LM

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