您是否被迫为旧的网络浏览器进行开发?
我一直想知道为什么人们仍在运行旧的网络浏览器,直到我开始目前的工作。 在这里我被迫使用IE6来开发我们所有的内部应用程序,因为我们的目标用户也在使用IE6。 是否有其他人遇到不允许运行最新技术的情况?是什么阻止了您? 您是否尝试过说服 IT/管理层进行升级?
I always wondered why people are still running older web browsers until I started at my current job. Here I am forced to use IE6 to develop all of our internal applications, as our target users also are using IE6. Is anyone else in a situation where they aren't allowed to run the latest technology, and what is stopping you? Have you tried to persuade IT/management to upgrade?
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这里同样是IE6。 我听说,大约去年,我们正在更新到 IE7——就在 IE8 发布之时/之前。
我们目前正计划在 2008 年发布之后从 MSSQL Server 2000 升级到 2005。
公司不喜欢“全新”——在其他人都发现问题之前升级成本太高、风险太大。 如果它坏了,你就得等待补丁。 使用至少有一个好年份的东西,加上一个不错的更新列表和价格下降,仍然只会帮助他们在未来考虑它。
你可以尝试推动它,可能会发现他们已经考虑过它——但是,我不会让你抱太大希望。
Same IE6 here. I've heard, for about the last year, that we're updating to IE7 -- right at/before the release of IE8.
We're currently planning to upgrade from MSSQL Server 2000 to 2005 -- right after the release of 2008.
Corporations don't like "brand new" -- it's too expensive and too risky to upgrade until everyone else finds the issues. If it breaks on you, you're stuck waiting for the patch. Using something with at least a good year on it, plus a nice list of updates, and price drops, still only helps them consider it for down the road.
You can try pushing for it, and probably find they've already considered it -- but, I wouldn't get your hopes high.
在我的大学,我们有一件奇怪的事情:
我认为 IE6 的使用可能是运行客户端的软件中的一个缺陷,因为我们的 IT 人员相当擅长升级(尽管我们还没有使用 Vista - 有大型网络吗?)。
At my college we have a curious thing:
I think that the IE6 usage is likely a flaw in the software running the clients as our IT staff are fairly good at upgrading (although we're not on Vista yet - are any large networks yet?).
我这里也有类似的情况。 虽然我们在工作中没有被迫使用任何特定的浏览器/版本,但我们有一些客户(大公司)仍在使用 IE6。 因此,我们还必须为 IE6 构建和测试所有内容。
现在我们有办法改变这种情况。 我们正在通过使用虚拟PC来测试旧浏览器版本来处理这种情况。
I'm in a similar situation here. While we are not forced to use any specific browser/version at work, we have some customers (large companies) that are still using IE6. Therefore we have to build and test everything for IE6 as well.
There is now way how we can change that situation. We are handling the situation by using using virtual PCs to test with the old browser versions.
这是第 22 条军规。 我使用 Opera,但我的银行和航空公司的网站不能使用它 - 他们可以使用 IE6,所以我保留它。
我可以升级到 IE8,它们可能会工作,但我必须检查每个不适用于 Opera 的网站,如果我发现任何也不适用于 IE8 的网站,我该如何降级?
所以我坚持使用 IE6,这意味着他们的服务器统计数据显示 IE6 用户的比例很高,所以他们不会做任何破坏 IE6 的事情,所以没有人升级......
It's a catch-22. I use Opera except my bank and an airline's site don't work with it - they do work with IE6, so I keep it around.
I could upgrade to IE8 and they might work, but I would have to check every site that doesn't work with Opera, and if I found any that also didn't work with IE8 how do I downgrade?
So I stick with IE6, which means that their server stats show a significant percentage of IE6 users, so they don't do anything that breaks IE6, so nobody upgrades ....
企业首先想要给用户带来的就是稳定性和安全性。 创新仅排在第三位。
他们不愿意做出任何改变,即使是用户要求的改变。 出于某种原因:当你改变某些东西时,其他东西很可能会在某个地方损坏......
创新可以带来一些钱(或降低成本),但系统停止肯定要花钱,有时还很多钱!
如果我是一家企业,我也会做同样的事情:在需要之前不要升级(当然,除非你肯定会在竞争中获得一些分数)。
The first things enterprise want to bring to their users are stability and security. Innovation is only third on the list.
They are reluctant to any change, even to those that the user ask for. With some reason : when you change something, chance are something else will break somewhere...
Innovation can bring some money (or reduce costs), but system halts definitely cost money, and sometimes a lot of money !
If I were an enterprise, I would do the same thing : don't upgrade until needed (unless, of course, you are sure to gain some points on the competition).
我为一家社交网络/媒体公司做 UI 工程(不幸的是,我们的受众通常是使用 IE6 的人)。 我们为 IE6/IE7/FF3 和 2 Win 以及 Mac/Safari 3 Win 和 Mac 设计。 不过,底线是,如果您的标记格式良好并且使用了最佳实践(无黑客),那么大多数浏览器看起来都一样,无需太多麻烦 - 即使是 IE6。
I do UI engineering for a social networking/media firm (so our audience is usually people with IE6, unfortunately). We design for IE6/IE7/FF3 and 2 Win and Mac/Safari 3 Win and Mac. The bottom line, though, is that if your markup is well formed and best practices are used (NO HACKS), then most browsers will look the same without much fuss -- even IE6.
首先,定义“旧”。 如果老的是IE6,那么可以。 否则,不行。
我在桌面上使用 Firefox,但默认安装了 IE7。 我们的外地办事处使用 IE6,因此我们必须针对他们。 然而,我的桌面上没有安装 IE6。
真是一个集群。
First, define "old." If old is IE6, then yes. Otherwise, no.
I use Firefox on my desktop but we have IE7 installed by default. Our field offices use IE6, so we have to target them. Yet, I don't have IE6 installed on my desktop.
What a clusterfark.