桌面多点触控界面有真正的价值吗?

发布于 2024-07-11 10:15:36 字数 322 浏览 7 评论 0原文

我最近很幸运能够参与 Microsoft 的 Surface 项目,为即将举行的“贸易展”编写一款教育游戏。 我确实可以看到 Surface 的协作特性和自然交互在教育领域的巨大作用,我真的无法对“普通”机器上的触摸或多点触摸感到兴奋。

我知道多点触控在 iPhone 等移动设备中有何用处,但我就是不明白如何或为何要将粘性手指放在台式机或笔记本电脑上,也不知道哪些软件可以真正利用它(特别是如果它被限制为“仅”2个输入。我想用鼠标调整图片大小比从鼠标到达屏幕并在那里进行操作要快:)

我只是不这样做吗得到它? 是否有人正在开发令人兴奋的多点触控应用程序,可能会改变我的想法? :)

I was lucky enough recently to be involved in a Surface project at Microsoft writing an educational game for an upcoming "trade show". I can really see how the collaborative nature and natural interaction of the Surface could be huge in the education space, I really can't get excited by touch or multi-touch on a "normal" machine.

I can see how multi-touch is useful in a mobile machine like the iPhone, but I just don't see how or why I'd want to put my sticky fingers all over my desktop or laptop, or what software would really take advantage of it (especially if it's restricted to "just" 2 inputs. I'd imagine it's quicker for me to resize a picture with my mouse than it is to reach from the mouse to the screen and do it there :)

Do I just not get it? Is anyone working on exciting multi-touch apps that might change my mind? :)

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猫烠⑼条掵仅有一顆心 2024-07-18 10:15:36

Apple 购买了一家名为 FingerWorks 公司的专利组合,以便可以将多点触控构建到其产品中自己的设备。 FingerWorks 制作了一款名为 TouchStream 的键盘替代品,这是我拥有过的最好的输入设备。

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作为键盘,它允许我全速触摸打字,按键“按下”所需的力为零登记。 键盘的右半部分还充当鼠标垫,具有左键、右键、中键单击、双击等功能,包括用于剪切、复制、粘贴、放大、缩小等多指手势。向上翻页、向下翻页、切换应用程序以及您通常使用组合键、特殊键或菜单执行的许多其他常见操作。 它允许我将宏附加到应用程序敏感的手势 - 只需动动我的左手,我就可以在 Visual C++ 中编译我正在开发的应用程序; 同样的抽搐在其他应用程序中做了其他事情。 不同的抽动可以绑定到另一个宏,或者插入 HTML 模板等。

这个设备极大地提高了我的工作效率 - 我从来不需要将手从主行移开来使用鼠标或执行手势,并且如果需要的话,我仍然可以使用常规的旧 Ctrl-Alt-Shift-foo 组合键(当然,在 emacs 中也是如此)。

我非常怀念 TouchStream,但不幸的是,它的机械设计很脆弱,在该公司消​​失后,我选择出售键盘(价格远远高于我购买的价格 - TouchStream 爱好者社区仍然存在),而不是把它放在意外损坏。

所有这些都说明:那些对多点触控作为主要界面的想法嗤之以鼻的人 - 尤其对于程序员来说 - 只是没有看到它做得很好。 我有。 我已经准备好让它回来了。

Apple bought the patent portfolio of a company called FingerWorks so that it could build multitouch into its own devices. FingerWorks made a keyboard replacement called the TouchStream that was the single best input device I have ever owned.

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As a keyboard, it allowed me to touch type at full speed with zero force required for a key "press" to register. The right half of the keyboard also acted as a mousepad, complete with left-, right-, and middle-click, double-click, etc. It included multi-finger gestures for cut, copy, paste, zoom in, zoom out, page up, page down, switching apps, and dozens of other common operations for which you'd ordinarily use key combos, special keys, or menus. It allowed me to attach macros to application-sensitive gestures - with a twitch of my left hand, I could compile the app I was working on in Visual C++; the same twitch did other things in other apps. A different twitch could be tied to another macro, or insert an HTML template, etc.

My productivity was improved greatly by this device - I never had to move my hands away from the home row to use a mouse or to execute a gesture, and I could still use regular old Ctrl-Alt-Shift-foo key combos if I needed to (which of course one does, in emacs).

I miss the TouchStream greatly, but unfortunately the mechanical design of the thing was fragile, and after the company disappeared I opted to sell the keyboard (for significantly more than I paid for it - the TouchStream enthusiast community is still out there) rather than put up with an unplanned breakage.

All this to say: Those who pooh-pooh the idea of multi-touch being the primary interface - especially for programmers - have simply not seen it done well. I have. And I'm ready for it to come back.

七堇年 2024-07-18 10:15:36

请观看 10/GUI 的概念视频,了解多点触控桌面的工作原理。

Check out the concept video for 10/GUI for a taste in how a multi-touch desktop might work.

对风讲故事 2024-07-18 10:15:36

我认为这里的核心概念是,多点触控在某些领域表现出色(例如 iPhone 和 Surface),但对于您每天使用计算机执行的日常任务来说,它可能会失败。

我的 Macbook Air 具有多点触控功能(在一定程度上),但除了 2 指滚动之外,我似乎从未真正使用过它。 人们有兴趣了解 Macbook Air 等多点触控界面背后的可用性统计数据,因为它不是输入/使用的主要来源。

课程用马。

I think the core concept here is that multi-touch has some domains where it excels (like iPhone and Surface), while it would probably fail for mundane tasks that you would perform every day with a computer.

My Macbook Air has multi-touch (to an extent), but I never really seem to use it other than the 2 finger scrolling. It would be interested to know the usability stats behind multi-touch interfaces like Macbook Air where it is not the primary source of input/use.

Horses for courses.

倾城°AllureLove 2024-07-18 10:15:36

你得把我的键盘从我冰冷、死气沉沉的手中撬开。

IT 专业人员、生产力工作者和软件开发人员使用真正的键盘比其他任何东西都更加高效。 我对所有这些“悬而未决”、类似少数派报告的界面的概念也有疑问——没有人有上臂的力量来让他们的手整天保持在那个位置。 我进一步质疑它们与传统鼠标或轨迹球相比的精度。

You'll have to pry my keyboard out of my cold, dead hands.

IT professionals, productivity workers and software developers are infinitely more productive with a real keyboard than anything else. I also have a problem with the notion of all this "up in the air", Minority Report-like interface - nobody has the upper arm strength to keep their hands in that position all day long. I further question the precision they expose as compared to a conventional mouse or trackball.

月下凄凉 2024-07-18 10:15:36

好吧,也许我可以在笔记本电脑到平板电脑上看到多点触控。 如果屏幕没有变脏。 但我确实看到了非接触式 SDK (http://www.codeplex. com/touchless/Release/ProjectReleases.aspx?ReleaseId=17986)使多点触控更适合家庭使用。 您可以在网络摄像头前的空中做出手势,向计算机发出命令或控制图片大小和方向。

Well maybe I could see multi-touch on a laptop to tablet. If the screen does not get to dirty. But I really see the touchless SDK (http://www.codeplex.com/touchless/Release/ProjectReleases.aspx?ReleaseId=17986) making multi-touch more approachable for home use. Where you can do gestures in the air in front of you web cam to give the computer commands or control picture sizes and orientation.

又爬满兰若 2024-07-18 10:15:36

我认为唯一真正的优势是更换鼠标。

我发现现在苹果的多点触控触摸板比 PC 触摸板更加自然。 我从来没有想过我会习惯只有一个按钮,现在当将两根手指放在触摸板上(无论如何你已经触摸过)并单击做同样的事情时,两个按钮只是烦人。

我想你的电脑显示器应该是同样的东西。 想象一下,其中三个嵌入在非程序员桌面中,例如 30 度角,没有外部输入设备。

使用起来非常自然,并且比必须处理键盘和鼠标更加“轻量级”。

I think the only real advantage is in replacing your mouse.

I find Apples multi-touch touchpad much more natural these days than a PC touchpad. I never thought I'd get used to only having one button, now two buttons are just annoying when resting two fingers on the touchpad (which you are already touching anyway) and clicking does the same thing.

I think it would have to be the same kind of thing with your computer display. Imagine three of them embedded in a non-programmers desktop at, say a 30 degree angle with no external input device.

It would be extremely natural to use, and much more "Lightweight" than having to deal with a keyboard and mouse.

把梦留给海 2024-07-18 10:15:36

我同意 Sarat 的观点,多点触控将有自己擅长的领域。我还认为,一旦多点触控变得更加主流,人们就会习惯它,应用程序也会随之而来。 与计算机的交互可以发生深刻的变化(多点触控也意味着多用户)并且可以使其更具社交性。 我正在关注这项技术,因为它可能在未来成为一件大事。

I agree with Sarat, multi touch will have its own areas to excel in. I also think that once multi touch becomes more mainstream people will get used to it and applications will follow. Interacting with a computer can change profoundly (multi touch also means multi user) and can make it more social. I'm keeping an eye on the technology because it might become a big thing in the future.

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