MSDN 订阅的成本是否会阻碍 .NET 采用
我知道这个问题有点异端邪说，但我很好奇......
当然，有快速版本。 但是，当微软在 OSS 世界中有效地争夺“人心”时，向全心全意支持 .NET 的开发人员收取高额的微软软件订阅费似乎会适得其反。 很难想象，在微软整体销售的背景下，开发许可证代表了如此重要的收入来源，足以证明其缺点是合理的。
所以我的问题是：您是否知道 MSDN 订阅率阻止团队在项目中采用 .NET 的任何实例 - 成本在决定采用 OSS 的过程中发挥了作用？
I know just the question is a bit of heresey, but I'm curious...
Sure, there are the express editions. But when Microsoft is effectively competing for 'hearts and minds' in an OSS world, it seems more than a bit counterproductive to charge devs who wholeheartedly support .NET high subscription fees for Microsoft software. It's hard to imagine that, in the context of Microsoft's overall sales, dev licenses represent such a significant revenue stream as to justify the downsides.
So my question is: do you know of any instances where MSDN subscription rates have deterred a team from adopting .NET for a project - where cost played a role in a decision to go OSS instead?
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对我来说确实如此。 这让我想也许我应该尝试成为 Microsoft MVP，因为他们免费提供所有软件。
除了许可证上的最高级别之外，你不能购买任何东西的 Expression Blend 和 Design，这让我很恼火。
It does to me. It makes me ask maybe I should try and become a Microsoft MVP because they get all the software for free.
You can't buy Expression Blend and Design for anything but the highest level on the License and that just ticks me off.
我不这么认为，尤其是针对小型 ISV 的授权计划 - 375 美元即可获得 5 个 MSDN许可证和其他好东西。 之后还有 Microsoft Action Pack 以及整个合作伙伴计划。
I don't think so, especially with the empower program for small ISVs -- $375 gets you 5 MSDN licenses and other goodies. After that there are Microsoft Action Packs as well as the entire partner program.
我一直获得合法、免费的 Visual Studio 副本。 您可以下载可以满足大多数人需求的 Express 版本，也可以参加发布活动，他们实际上会向每个出现的人分发副本。
.NET Framework 是免费下载的，所以实际上唯一剩下的就是一个运行 Windows 的盒子。我敢打赌，你已经在某个地方找到了其中一个。
没有理由购买 MSDN 订阅。
I've always gotten legal, free copies of Visual Studio. You can either download the Express versions which will handle most people's needs or go to the Launch events where they literally give out copies to everyone who shows up.
.NET Framework is a free download, so really the only thing left is a box running Windows.. and I'd be willing to bet that you've got one of those kicking around somewhere.
There's no reason to purchase an MSDN subscription.
这不是进入障碍，但它确实代表了玻璃天花板。 Express 版本可以提供很多东西，但不是全部。 专业版有很多小福利 - 例如 +cough+ Resharper +cough+ 插件。 我想说您至少需要 Visual Studio 20xx Pro 才能进行任何中档到企业级开发。
MS 开发工具的成本是我选择 Linux 的唯一原因。 看到所有适用于 Linux、OS X 和 Java 的免费开发工具是很困难的。 如果我的工作不依赖于与 .NET 保持同步，我会立刻放弃它。
It's not a barrier to entry, but it certainly represents a glass ceiling. You get a lot of things with the Express editions, but not EVERYTHING. There's a lot of little perks that come with the Pro versions - addins for instance +cough+ Resharper +cough+. I'd say you need Visual Studio 20xx Pro at a minimum to do any mid-range to Enterprise level development.
The cost of MS developer tools was the sole reason behind my Year of Linux. It's tough seeing all the free development tools for Linux, OS X and Java. If my job didn't depend on keeping up to date with .NET, I'd leave it for dead in a heartbeat.
在我看来，MSDN 订阅并不是一个巨大的阻碍，因为不仅有精简版，大多数产品也有试用版，而且我认为基本的 MSDN 订阅并没有那么贵。
然而，某些开发工具以及某些产品的许可成本和许可复杂性可能是一个巨大的障碍，不幸的是，在项目开始时往往没有考虑到这一点。
据我所知，许多项目由于许可成本和许可复杂性而选择了替代技术。
In my view MSDN subscriptions are not a huge deterrant, as not only are there express editions, there are also trial versions of most products, and I think a basic MSDN subscription is not that expensive.
However licencing costs and licencing complexity of certain developer tools as well as certain products can be a huge obstacle which unfortunately is often not thought about at the beginning of projects.
I am aware of a number of projects which have chosen alternative technologies due to licencing costs and licencing complexity.
我目前正在参加 Empower 计划，但当该计划用完时我将支付全额费用
出于同样的原因，我每年支付 800 澳元订阅 AutoCAD - 它轻松地为我节省了更多时间和时间。 从长远来看，我所需要的一切都触手可及，所带来的麻烦远大于所付出的代价。
当我考虑许可证和社区时，我认为我物有所值 - 我认为其中大部分都是免费的。
我认为这是经营我的企业的合法成本，而且无论如何它都是可以免税的。
I'm currently on the Empower program but I'll be paying the full fare when it runs out
for the same reason I pay A$800/year for an AutoCAD subscription - it easily saves me more time & hassle than it costs in the long run by having everything I need at my fingertips.
I think I'm getting value for money when I consider both the licenses as well as the community - most of which I suppose is free anyway.
I consider it a legitimate cost of running my business and it's tax-deductible anyway.
我正在尝试重新开始我的职业生涯、我的生活等，而我之前的 MSDN Universal 子版已于 2005 年过期。在它过期时，我停止了工作一段时间。 与此同时，微软改变了该订阅计划的成本和结构。 今天获得类似的订阅是不可能的。 我没有资金。 我目前正在使用旧技术（VB6 和 ASP）进行开发，并且会一直这样做，直到我有资金购买我想要的 MSDN 子版。 我已经下载了 VS 2008 和 SQL 2008 的“express”版本，但是，坦率地说，任何认真的开发人员都希望利用“express”中不可用的功能。 在 StackOverflow 上探讨这个问题时，我看到其他人谈论 Empower 计划。 它看起来很有希望，我将对其进行调查。
但是，是的，进入的障碍是成本。 希望 Empower 能暂时降低这种情况。 我同意到期后我需要支付全额票价的要求。 我认为那是公平的。
I am trying to restart my career, my life, etc and my previous MSDN Universal sub expired in 2005. At the time it expired, I stopped working for a while. That coincided with Microsoft changing the cost and structure of that subscription program. To acquire a similar subscription today is out of the question. I do not have the funds. I am currently developing with old technology (VB6 and ASP) and will do so until I have the funds to purchase the MSDN sub that I want. I have downloaded the "express" versions of VS 2008 and SQL 2008 but, lets be frank, any serious developer is going to want to utilize the features that arent available in "express". In exploring this issue here on StackOverflow, I have seen others talk about the Empower program. It looks promising and I shall investigate it.
But, yes, the barrier to entry is the cost. Hopefully Empower lowers that, for a while. I agree with the requirement that after it expires I will need to pay full fare. I think thats only fair.
我认为 MS 在降低 .Net 的访问和使用成本方面取得了巨大进展。 有了 Visual Studio 和 Sql Server 的 Express 版本，您唯一需要支付的费用就是 Windows 本身（无论是在您的开发环境还是服务器/生产环境中）。
现在阻碍 .Net 的唯一因素是，无论成本如何，它可能都不是适合每项工作的工具。
I think MS has made huge inroads to making .Net cheaper to access and work with. With competent Express versions of Visual Studio and Sql Server, the only thing you need to pay for is Windows itself (both in your dev environment and server/production environment).
The only thing holding .Net back now is it may not be the right tool for every job regardless of cost.